JimmySmokes thread of Going Nowhere...

[jimmysmokes]

George Lutz wanted to release them in a "picture book" back in the early 80's, and then again around 2000, both times it never quite happened though. Various ones turn up in documentaries.

you forgot to mention lutz's buddy, osuna! it's his baby now. but how can osuna release any "ghost pics" from the house when he discovered it was never haunted?

[sherbetbizarre]

The book never happened in 2000 because Osuna quit the project!

[jimmysmokes]

The book never happened in 2000 because Osuna quit the project!

keep going, there's more to tell. he got what he needed and then did his own project.

[sherbetbizarre]

You seem to be under the impression the pics are still his to release?

[jimmysmokes]

what pics?

[jimmysmokes]

https://www.longislandexchange.com/soci ... le-horror/

I wonder which Lutz's (ric was speaking of) spilled the beans (so to speak) as the whole thing being "fiction", back in the friendly days?

hmm? I would toss out a couple guesses...

[jimmysmokes]

You seem to be under the impression the pics are still his to release?

http://www.amityvillefaq.com/truth/resigns.htm

nice article and osuna does claim that some of the material (pics) were solely his. some were published in his book.

you need any more assistance?

[sherbetbizarre]

you need any more assistance?

What is your point here - that Ric Osuna was onto something?

[jimmysmokes]

he claims that he was told by several lutz members of a (the) hoax. tossed that in as well. very interesting wouldn't you agree? but yeah, not much of a point here of him being on to something. old news that haunting.

you stated about osuna and publishing rights. he did publish some.

[sherbetbizarre]

he claims that he was told by several lutz members of a (the) hoax.

Like who? Christopher?

you stated about osuna and publishing rights. he did publish some.

Some what? Pictures?

[msammons]

You know something interesting is in at least one interview Laura Didio talked about this picture. She didn't know what it was. I would think the people there would come out and say "oh that was just Paul Bartz". I honestly don't know. He did wear glasses but the hair doesn't look like his.

[jimmysmokes]

You seem to be under the impression the pics are still his to release?

what pics? asked you this already. that book George was working on. what book? you see any of George's pics at any time?

[sherbetbizarre]

what pics? asked you this already. that book George was working on.

His abandoned pro-haunting book? Ok, what about it? I've lost track of where you're going...

[jimmysmokes]

you seen any of it? we're discussing osuna lutz picture book?

[sherbetbizarre]

He turned his "picture book" into this...

http://amityvilletruth.freeservers.com/index2.htm

[jimmysmokes]

I think you're under the impression the book & pics are still his to release...

[sherbetbizarre]

This "discussion" reminds me of this story:

http://thebigfootdiaries.blogspot.co.uk ... ot-it.html

[jimmysmokes]

I got a freezer full of pork chops and I've been eating a lot of pork chops lately

[sherbetbizarre]

[Brendan72]

The book never happened in 2000 because Osuna quit the project!

keep going, there's more to tell. he got what he needed and then did his own project.

I think it may have had something to do with Ric Osuna being told by George Lutz that Osuna's book (which apparently was written like just a plan) was actually Osuna's finished product. When politely suggested he should take some lessons in writing and then they would reconsider that is when Osuna took offence. I got the impression that Ric Osuna was not big on taking what he deemed to be criticism, when the reality of writing is that it always needs re-working and editing.

When The Night The DeFeo's Died was released a few years later it was not just a retelling (or reimagining) of the murders but more an expose on George Lutz and the allegations of a fraud as far as the haunting was concerned.

you forgot to mention lutz's buddy, osuna! it's his baby now. but how can osuna release any "ghost pics" from the house when he discovered it was never haunted?

The idea for a picture book was around before Ric Osuna was on the scene. I think that maybe Osuna wanted to do more than the picture book project and do an actual written book (mentioned above which got pooh-poohed) whereas George was only interested in a picture book. It was a long time ago that I first heard an interview on Lou Gentile where George and Ric Osuna had an on the air heated discussion where Osuna (I think) mentioned something about not being interested in the picture book.

[jimmysmokes]

according to osuna, at some point lutz was only interested in putting out another piece of fiction, such as film/book. why the idea of a picture book may have been around beforehand, I doubt it never got off the ground and was merely only an idea. but then one wonders why osuna would write up a manuscript (pro-haunting) then do the usual in the Amityville world and flip-flop and do his own thing? sour grapes perhaps? my guess is he just couldn't keep forcing himself to buy into the haunting after being around George for a while? enter gates.