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Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:22 pm
by Troodon Roar
This is my first post on here. I decided to join today because, after watching the 2005 (6897 in my calendar, in base-twelve) film on television two months ago, I became mesmerized and fascinated by all things Amityville. I subsequently read the original book by Jay Anson, and I loved it, as well. One of the people involved in The Amityville Horror saga who fascinates me the most is John Ketcham, or Jeremiah Ketcham in the remake. He is a rather enigmatic figure, and not much is known about him. One of the things that is known about him, though, is that he lived and died prior to the years 1739-1743, in the base-ten Gregorian calendar, meaning that, according to my scheme of classifying human history, he lived during what I refer to as the Era of Classic Animals, while, since the DeFeos all lived their lives in the 20th century (and the 21st century, as well, for Ronnie Jr.) of the Gregorian calendar, they lived during what I refer to as the Era of New Animals. The Era of Classic Animals is the time period in which humans were unaware of animals such as non-avian dinosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, mosasaurs, saber-toothed cats, gorillas, okapis, Komodo dragons, platypuses, coelocanths, etc. The Era of New Animals begins when humans begin to discover and become familiar with these species, which I am led to think happened no earlier than the 18th century of the Gregorian calendar.

While watching the remake, I noticed that the spirit of Reverend Jeremiah Ketcham was inhabiting the same house as the spirit of Jodie DeFeo. Jodie is from the Era of New Animals, while Reverend Ketcham is from the Era of Classic Animals. While Jodie might not have been aware of some of the more obscure developments going on in the zoological sciences at the time of her death in the movie (for example, a dinosaur species named Saurornithoides junior, later to be reclassified in the new genus Zanabazar in 2009, was described in a scientific publication in 1974), surely, she at least knew what a gorilla was, for example. What child in the 1970s didn't? It is also likely that she could have at least known what a (non-avian) dinosaur was, as I imagine it was also probably quite common for a child at that time to have been aware of them.

So what I am wondering is this: In the 2005 remake, did the ghost of Jodie DeFeo tell the ghost of Reverend Jeremiah Ketcham about the numerous New Animals that were discovered by humans after his death? And, in real life, if the ghosts of the DeFeos and the ghost of John Ketcham really do inhabit 112/108 Ocean Avenue, have the DeFeos and the Ketchams, in their spectral forms, had opportunity to converse, and for Ketcham to be aware of all of the species that the DeFeos were familiar with that he was not, due to the temporal difference between them?

It is certainly something that is a lot of fun, for me, to speculate about.

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:10 am
by Victoria Principles
There is no such person as Jodie DeFeo. That is a fictional character in the horrible 2005 movie.

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:15 am
by Troodon Roar
Yes, I am aware that Jodie DeFeo is only a fictional character from the 2005 movie, and does not exist in real life. When I refer to her and her possible interactions with Ketcham, I am referring to within the fictional universe of the 2005 movie. Besides, according to quantum physics, there might be many different parallel universes or timelines, anyway, so who knows? Perhaps there's another universe out there in which the events of the 2005 movie actually happened (as well as yet another universe in which the events of the 1979 movie actually happened).

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:31 pm
by Brooke Forrester
It would depend on if you think spirits can converse the same way living humans do, and would they be interested in discussing such a thing (unknown animals at their lifetime) with each other.

I think it's up to your imagination.

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:12 am
by Troodon Roar
At least in the remake, it seems to have been implied that Ketcham's ghost had a rather turbulent relationship with Jodie's ghost, as Chelsea informs Kathy that Jodie wants the man who lives here (referring to Reverend Ketcham) to leave, as he makes her do bad things. And, when George walks into a room in one scene, hands are seen holding and restraining a struggling Jodie to the ceiling, and, at the close of the film, after the Lutz family flees from the house, Jodie is pulled underground by a pair of hands in the house. Perhaps, in both of those cases, the hands were Reverend Ketcham's. So it seems like Ketcham's ghost had a rather abusive relationship towards Jodie's ghost. That doesn't seem like the kind of postmortem relationship that would easily facilitate discussion about newly-discovered species. But who knows? Perhaps Jodie was so desperate to escape Ketcham's brutality, in the world of the movie, that she could have attempted to intimidate or frighten the Reverend with her knowledge of the bizarre appearances and speculated behaviors of creatures Ketcham could never have dreamt of, such as non-avian dinosaurs.

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:23 pm
by Ayko
It's tempting but, I ain't touching this one. :silenced:

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:56 am
by Jimmie_R
You should watch the original movie and the sequel/prequel instead.

Re: Ketcham and the DeFeos – Classic Animals and New Animals

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:54 am
by Victoria Principles
Here is the Classic Animals:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxaCmPROf4[/youtube]

Here is the New Animals:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur30bn_3G58[/youtube]