Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby surferguy72 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:06 pm

40 year old virgins huh?where the hell did that come from? :fp:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Kinzoku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:00 am

Dan the Damned wrote:Ryan's excuse is that we must see these horrific crime scene pictures to fully appreciate the magnitude of the murders. :roll:

I think he's using these photos in an attempt to show the audience "Look, I have these exclusive pictures, which shows I really did my job and researched this case, and that I know what I'm talking about."

Or maybe he's just a ghoul, who loves looking at photos of car accidents and wartime atrocities and thinks others like that stuff as well.


One of the things that always throws me about Ryan's trailer is the upbeat music playing in the bar when Ronnie rushes in to tell everyone that his family is dead. As used in the trailer, this music gives the audience an emotional cue which prepares them for something like a comic montage from a buddy film. And then you are hit in the face with Ronnie shouting that his parents are dead. Totally inappropriate...

The choice of musical score for cinema is as important or more so than the content of the movie/screenplay...........You are spot on Dan and just that observation is a window into the way that guy (Ryan) thinks................

I agree with you totally............ :clap:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:49 pm

From here…

http://www.amityvillefilm.com/AmityStory.html

…Louise is listed as 42…and Marc is listed as 11…

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…but according to other sources...(including TNTDD…the book that SH is based on)…Louise was born on November 3, 1931…and Marc was born on September 4, 1962. So in reality…Louise was 43…and Marc was 12.

:think:

A little further down the page…

"The first portrait depicted the DeFeo daughters, Allison and Dawn. The next portrait, a couple of steps further up, was that of Butch and his father, the latter Senior pouring Junior a glass of liquor. Above this, sons Marc and John. In the landing hung an elaborately detailed vertical portrait of the beautiful Louise Marie Brigante-DeFeo seated in an elegant chair. Adjacent this, on an opposite wall hung a portrait of Michael Brigante."

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…in reality…the portrait of Louise was NOT on the landing…but in the first-floor hallway…

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:think:

From here……

http://www.amityvillefilm.com/AmityStoryPART3.html

"A hairbrush, strangely out of place, lay on the marble floor in the threshold between the foyer and the dining room to their immediate right."

"A blue hairbrush lies on the foyer marble at the threshold to the dining room."


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…in reality…the hairbrush was on the OTHER side of the foyer…at the threshold to the living room.

Here’s a zoomed (and lightened) pic of the hairbrush. Note the octagonal table…

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…this was one of two end tables that sat on either side of a small couch in the southeastern corner of the living room.

Both tables and the couch can be seen in this double-exposed photo…

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…this was the same spot where the “kids photo” was taken…

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…and also where Dawn and Allison were sitting when their portrait was painted…

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:think:

All in all…if Ryan can’t get such simple facts straight for his website…how can anyone expect that he’ll get the facts straight for his "film"?

:think:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:42 am

Do you know how much reshoots cost, Max?

Shame on you!
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:04 pm

Here's the opening shot of the movie:

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:19 pm

That's better than I imagined. ;)
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:53 pm

sherbetbizarre wrote:Here's the opening shot of the movie:

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LOL Sherb...but it looks like you hit Shift-Print Screen a little too early...



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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:23 pm

Reminds me of "Bambi Meets Godzilla."
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:15 pm

And what’s up with RyKat’s silly trailer…especially this part...

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…the story shocked the nation?

THE STORY SHOCKED THE NATION?

:roll:

The majority of "the nation" didn’t know about the DeFeo murders shortly after they happened…and the majority of "the nation" doesn’t know about the DeFeo murders now.

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Evanguy Reincarnated » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:17 am

Wow pretty interesting stuff everyone! Can't wait until all of this stuff becomes an official movie...Good work!
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby BillyCigars » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:56 am

You sure you're following along?
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:15 am

:lol:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:22 am

BillyCigars wrote:You sure you're following along?


I think we could ask the same question after every post he makes... :?
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby leathermonkey » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:43 pm

Is this thing EVER going to see the light of day? I've been itching to pick it apart for what seems to be 2 years now..
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Evanguy Reincarnated » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:15 am

leathermonkey wrote:Is this thing EVER going to see the light of day? I've been itching to pick it apart for what seems to be 2 years now..


These things always seem to take so long.....Kinda like the George Llutz Picture book that has been in the making for over 15 years!!
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:03 pm

Yep. Most ideas never happen. Thousands of scripts float around Hollywood, but only a few get made. Numerous book proposals, but only a fraction get published. Countless ride ideas at Disney but only a few get built.

George's Picture Book was a labor of love, more than a business venture. He could have put it out in 2005 and capitalized on all the hype surrounding the film remake. But he didn't. He wanted to take his time and do it right.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:39 am

A brief sample cut from the forthcoming film Shattered Hopes featuring the narration of Mr. Edward Asner.





As a Brit, this clip made me go looking here...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100312115413AACme1K
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:18 am

sherbetbizarre wrote:As a Brit, this clip made me go looking here...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100312115413AACme1K


I guess that makes sense if you guys pronounce "horrific" as "oh-riffic." But yeah, in America we pronounce the "h" so it's more like "whore-iffic" (which I think is the term we used to describe the attire of my high school History teacher)...
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:58 pm

I just had a look at...Clip #1 - Shattered Hopes...

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1588451309985

The narrator’s description of Amityville sounds exactly like the way Amityville was described by the narrator of the History Channel documentaries from back in 2000 (almost verbatim). Not surprising...as Ryan has a habit of "borrowing" from others. For example...from the cover page of the book High Hopes...

High Hopes: The Amityville Murders - The True Story

...and then years later...Ryan "comes up" with...

Shattered Hopes: The True Story Of The Amityville Murders

:roll:

The video footage of "1970s Amityville" is the EXACT same video footage of "1970s Amityville" from Hans Holzer’s documentary (Murder In Amityville). No big deal...as I’m sure that Ryan secured all necessary clearance. But it’s just kind of amusing to see "PROPERTY OF KATCO MEDIA" plastered over the work of someone else.

At one point...in regard to 11-13-74...the narrator mentions a "cold autumn night". It wasn’t cold on 11-13-74. I guess this is just an example of Ryan overdramatizing. Kinda like how he (via a video) described the murders as "THE CASE THAT SHOCKED THE NATION"...when the majority of the nation knew nothing about the murders.

:roll:

I wonder why Ryan is STILL showing the portrait of Louise as being along the stairway? Maybe Sherb was right...and reshoots are simply too expensive?

Not only are the gunshots ridiculously loud...but they sound like they were generated by a seven-year-old kid on Christmas morning...using his shiny new Casio keyboard and a 1975 Panasonic tape recorder.

And lastly...will Ryan EVER release a Shattered Hopes clip that DOESN’T involve photos of slaughtered DeFeo family members?

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:56 pm

msmart112 wrote:The video footage of "1970s Amityville" is the EXACT same video footage of "1970s Amityville" from Hans Holzer’s documentary (Murder In Amityville). No big deal...as I’m sure that Ryan secured all necessary clearance. But it’s just kind of amusing to see "PROPERTY OF KATCO MEDIA" plastered over the work of someone else.


You're right! Those 3 shots starting with the Amityville Theater are directly from Hans Holzer's documentary.

But if Ryan got the necessary clearances for that, then why is he using the bootlegged low-resolution/fuzzy video copy that he got from Ric Osuna (which Ric "borrowed" from George Lutz)? And then he has the nerve to plaster his own copyright warning over stolen footage! :naughty:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:18 pm

Clip #2 - Shattered Hopes...

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1588488350911

"Prior to the phone call from Geraldine DeFeo, there’d been no mention in any historical account of the story as to Butch DeFeo’s marriage."

...no mention in ANY historical account?

How about the article that appeared in Newsday on Wednesday, March 19, 1986...

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...and how about the numerous mentions of Ronnie’s marriage in various New York newspapers in the early-nineties (in regard to Ronnie’s 440 motion and subsequent hearing)?

:roll:

And what’s all this malarkey regarding Mrs. DeFeo’s necklace?

Geraldine said...

"Take a VERY good look at what is around Louise DeFeo’s neck, because THAT is not a Catholic cross."

...and the point is?

First of all...who said that it WAS a Catholic cross?

Second...just because Geraldine knew that Mrs. DeFeo had worn a heart does NOTHING to prove that Geraldine ever knew the DeFeo family.

Geraldine and Ronnie first met in 1985. Ric and Geraldine first spoke in 2000. So Ronnie had FIFTEEN years to fill Geraldine in on various details.

:roll:

And as usual...Ryan wastes no opportunity to include pictures of slaughtered DeFeo family members.

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