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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby kathyM » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:34 pm

No doubt! :lol:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby kathyM » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:17 pm

Saw an article on Radar Online about Ryan and his newest documentary.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:20 pm

Wait, Katzenbach has filed a lawsuit?

That's rare.

Director Sues Beverly Hills Police for Access to Ronni Chasen File (Exclusive)

Access to the slain publicist's case pits a documentary filmmaker against Beverly Hills police as alternate theories continue to surround her 2010 murder.

This story first appeared in the Nov. 22 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.

Exactly three years after Hollywood publicist Ronni Chasen was gunned down as she drove home from a movie premiere, the saga is taking a new legal turn. Documentary filmmaker Ryan Katzenbach has sued the Beverly Hills Police Department in a battle over access to its case files pertaining to the Nov. 16, 2010, murder of Chasen. Police later tracked down suspect Harold Martin Smith, a 43-year-old ex-convict, who committed suicide when confronted at a flophouse in Hollywood. But Katzenbach believes there remain unanswered questions pertaining to the homicide. He is seeking to review the full investigation file for his Ed Asner-narrated project, 6:38, titled in reference to the time that elapsed between Chasen's final cell phone call and the arrival of police.

At the heart of Katzenbach's lawsuit, which he previewed for THR and filed Wednesday, is the cooperation the department previously afforded Beverly Hills Confidential, a small-press book published in 2012 that was co-authored by the department's senior forensic specialist, Clark Fogg, and journalist Barbara Schroeder. The tome delves into what its cover describes as "A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murders," with information provided directly "from the files of the Beverly Hills Police Department."

The book, whose subjects range from Charlie Chaplin to Bugsy Siegel, includes a chapter on Chasen's murder, anchored by a debunking of what Fogg, in a dialogue with Schroeder, describes as "conspiracy theorists," based on his review of evidence. Rumors persist that Smith -- who police said rode a bicycle and tried to rob Chasen in her Mercedes as she waited to turn left off of Sunset Boulevard onto Whittier Drive -- didn't act alone and might have been hired to kill Chasen and make it look like a robbery.

"He has carte blanche to everything for a book that's clearly not in his scope of duty with the department," says Katzenbach, who previously made a documentary on a 1970s domestic killing spree in Suffolk County, N.Y. "Now there should be parity across the board." (Internal department correspondence regarding the book, obtained by Katzenbach through a California Public Records Act request, shows Fogg handled some book-related work while on duty and that BHPD Chief David Snowden gave Confidential as gifts.)

In his lawsuit, Katzenbach describes the book's chapter on Chasen as presenting "a tidy version of the story congruent with the BHPD's official positions in this case," whereas the department is aware that the filmmaker's consideration "will be far more critical." Lt. Lincoln Hoshino tells THR the BHPD already has released the same amount of information to Katzenbach as it did to the co-authors -- a limited series of previously unseen crime-scene photos -- and will reveal nothing further in the case file.

The filmmaker also seeks to repeal a security hold placed on Chasen’s autopsy file that resides with the L.A. County Coroner’s Office. Such holds are typically dissolved when a case is closed.
Hoshino explains that the department was keeping the hold in place “because this one has celebrity interest to it” and it wants “to protect the family and her loved ones.” It has retained no such holds for the five other homicides that have occurred in Beverly Hills since 2007, both four closed cases as well as the high-profile unsolved murder of hairstylist Scott Ruffalo, brother of actor Mark.

When THR pointed this out and inquired about the discrepancy, Hoshino became agitated, saying that he found the line of questioning “rude” and hung up without answering.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/d ... ice-655535

And the complaint in full:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/ ... plaint.pdf
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Shawn » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:45 pm

who previously made a documentary on a 1970s domestic killing spree in Suffolk County, N.Y.



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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:51 pm

...wow, good luck trying to read the whole complaint. It's another whiny epic, where the plaintiff is "angered", "shocked" and "instantly miffed" in his quest to obtain the autopsy reports...
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Shawn » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:52 pm

...wow, good luck trying to read the whole complaint. It's another whiny epic, where the plaintiff is "angered", "shocked" and "instantly miffed" in his quest to obtain the autopsy reports...




Somebody should do a documentary on that. :D
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby PeterPisani » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:57 am

Hahahaha! I am truly laughing. This guy couldnt handle ME, and he is suing the COPS? This guy has the most amazing ego in history.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby kathyM » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:22 am

Too bad for this guy that after all this time nobody takes him seriously as a documentary filmmaker. They are probably all laughing at him. :) Ryan who?
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Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby scipio-USMC » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:25 am

His complaint is a rambling mess because he wrote it as opposed to seeking legal help. Of ocurse lawyers would tell him he has no leg to stand on. The relevant portions of the Public Records Act:

6254. Except as provided in Sections 6254.7 and 6254.13, nothing in
this chapter shall be construed to require disclosure of records
that are any of the following:

(c) Personnel, medical, or similar files, the disclosure of which
would constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.

(f) Records of complaints to, or investigations conducted by, or records of intelligence information or security procedures of,…any state or local police agency, or any investigatory or security files compiled by any other state or local police agency, or any investigatory or security files compiled by any other state or local agency for correctional, law enforcement,or licensing purposes.

However, state and local law enforcement agencies shall disclose the names and addresses of persons involved in, or witnesses other than confidential informants to, the incident,the description of any property involved, the date, time, and location of the incident, all diagrams, statements of the parties involved in the incident, the statements of all witnesses, other than confidential informants, to the victims of an incident, or an authorized representative thereof, an insurance carrier against which a claim has been or might be made, and any person suffering bodily injury or property damage or loss, as the result of the incident caused by arson, burglary, fire, explosion, larceny, robbery,carjacking, vandalism, vehicle theft, or a crime as defined bysubdivision (b) of Section 13951, unless the disclosure would endanger the safety of a witness or other person involved in the investigation, or unless disclosure would endanger the successful
completion of the investigation or a related investigation. However,nothing in this division shall require the disclosure of that portion
of those investigative files that reflects the analysis or conclusions of the investigating officer. . . .

Notwithstanding any other provision of this subdivision, state and local law enforcement agencies shall make public the following
information, except to the extent that disclosure of a particular item of information would endanger the safety of a person involved in
an investigation or would endanger the successful completion of the investigation or a related investigation:
(1) The full name and occupation of every individual arrested by the agency, the individual's physical description including date of
birth, color of eyes and hair, sex, height and weight, the time and date of arrest, the time and date of booking, the location of the
arrest, the factual circumstances surrounding the arrest, the amount of bail set, the time and manner of release or the location where the
individual is currently being held, and all charges the individual is being held upon, including any outstanding warrants from other
jurisdictions and parole or probation holds.
(2) Subject to the restrictions imposed by Section 841.5 of the Penal Code, the time, substance, and location of all complaints or
requests for assistance received by the agency and the time and nature of the response thereto, including, to the extent the
information regarding crimes alleged or committed or any other incident investigated is recorded, the time, date, and location of
occurrence, the time and date of the report, the name and age of the victim, the factual circumstances surrounding the crime or incident,
and a general description of any injuries, property, or weapons involved. The name of a victim of any crime defined by Section 220,
236.1, 261, 261.5, 262, 264, 264.1, 265, 266, 266a, 266b, 266c, 266e, 266f, 266j, 267, 269, 273a, 273d, 273.5, 285, 286, 288, 288a, 288.2, 288.3 (as added by Chapter 337 of the Statutes of 2006), 288.3 (as added by Section 6 of Proposition 83 of the November 7, 2006,
statewide general election), 288.5, 288.7, 289, 422.6, 422.7, 422.75, 646.9, or 647.6 of the Penal Code may be withheld at the victim's
request, or at the request of the victim's parent or guardian if the victim is a minor. When a person is the victim of more than one
crime, information disclosing that the person is a victim of a crime defined in any of the sections of the Penal Code set forth in this
subdivision may be deleted at the request of the victim, or the victim's parent or guardian if the victim is a minor, in making the
report of the crime, or of any crime or incident accompanying the crime, available to the public in compliance with the requirements of
this paragraph.
(3) Subject to the restrictions of Section 841.5 of the Penal Code and this subdivision, the current address of every individual arrested by the agency and the current address of the victim of a crime, where the requester declares under penalty of perjury that the
request is made for a scholarly, journalistic, political, or governmental purpose, or that the request is made for investigation
purposes by a licensed private investigator as described in Chapter 11.3 (commencing with Section 7512) of Division 3 of the Business and
Professions Code. However, the address of the victim of any crime defined by Section 220, 236.1, 261, 261.5, 262, 264, 264.1, 265, 266,
266a, 266b, 266c, 266e, 266f, 266j, 267, 269, 273a, 273d, 273.5, 285, 286, 288, 288a, 288.2, 288.3 (as added by Chapter 337 of the
Statutes of 2006), 288.3 (as added by Section 6 of Proposition 83 of the November 7, 2006, statewide general election), 288.5, 288.7, 289, 422.6, 422.7, 422.75, 646.9, or 647.6 of the Penal Code shall remain confidential. Address information obtained pursuant to this
paragraph may not be used directly or indirectly, or furnished to another, to sell a product or service to any individual or group of
individuals, and the requester shall execute a declaration to that effect under penalty of perjury. Nothing in this paragraph shall be
construed to prohibit or limit a scholarly, journalistic, political,or government use of address information obtained pursuant to this
paragraph.

6255. (a) The agency shall justify withholding any record by demonstrating that the record in question is exempt under express
provisions of this chapter or that on the facts of the particular case the public interest served by not disclosing the record clearly
outweighs the public interest served by disclosure of the record.

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby PeterPisani » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:15 am

Holy crow....did this guy really file on his own again? He is too much. Not good at learning lessons our Rykat.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby kathyM » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:29 am

His antics are pretty entertaining though. :lol:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Rokiisun » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:36 pm

PeterPisani wrote:Holy crow....did this guy really file on his own again? He is too much. Not good at learning lessons our Rykat.


He filed the lawsuit again? When? I thought he did it months ago. Or is this an 'appeal' lawsuit?
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:46 pm

No, he means he filed another suit "on his own" - ie without a lawyer - which is why it's rambling and spreads to more pages than it needs to.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby msmart112 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:14 am

PeterPisani wrote:This guy has the most amazing ego in history.

He sure does...

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby Dan the Damned » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:28 am

I think the suit is just a publicity stunt. As stupid as I feel Ryan is, I don't think he's stupid enough to think he can win this one.

When he was threatening to sue me a few years ago, he pretty much made it clear that the hassle of having to deal with a lawsuit was the actual punishment. In other words, he wasn't out to win the suit -- he just wanted me to waste my time jumping through legal hurdles and he wanted me to suffer a financial loss having to pay for my lawyers to sit down and read his rambling complaint.
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:14 am

Dan the Damned wrote:I think the suit is just a publicity stunt.

I was beginning to think the same thing.

He's won time on the local news, so he's happy. Also, the "likes" on the Ronni Chasen page shot up from 399 to 401 after this story broke. So well worth all the effort he put into writing the suit.


btw I'm still waiting for his Shat fans to work out the reason Part III keeps hitting delays, is because of the time he put into his silly long-winded lawsuits :doh:
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Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:03 pm

Christmas comes early for Ryan...

Ronni Chasen's Autopsy Finally Released After Legal Battle

The publicist died from four gunshot wounds, according to the official report from the Los Angeles County Coroner, withheld from the public for three years but released following a lawsuit filed by a documentary filmmaker.

The Los Angeles County Coroner's official autopsy report for Ronni Chasen, obtained late Thursday by The Hollywood Reporter, reveals that the publicist died in her Mercedes-Benz of four gunshot wounds fired from what police initially described as a "second vehicle."

Read the full autopsy here.

"While she was stopped at a red light at the intersection of Sunset Boulevard and Whittier Drive and [sic] unknown vehicle pulled up and someone fired approximately 4 gunshots into her vehicle," the report reads. "All witnesses report hearing 4 gunshots." The report was filed hours after the accident and initially mentioned a vehicle, but officials later said an unemployed felon named Harold Martin Smith rode a bicycle from Hollywood to Beverly Hills and back.

The autopsy, which was completed on Nov. 30, 2010, revealed the cause of death was multiple gunshot wounds, one of which ricocheted and entered her body again. (A preliminary coroner's report that aired on local TV at the time said Chasen was shot five times.) Three gunshots entered the body from the front, and one entered from the back. No drugs or alcohol was present in her system, according to the autopsy.

The autopsy results, which had been placed on a security hold by Beverly Hills police three years ago, were released as a settlement of part of an ongoing lawsuit filed Nov. 13 by documentary filmmaker Ryan Katzenbach, who is making a movie about Chasen's death.

Beverly Hills Police Chief David Snowden told THR in January 2012 that Smith acted alone in shooting Chasen. It's believed Smith rode from a former hotel in Hollywood called the Harvey Apartments to the shooting site at the intersection of Sunset and Whittier. Los Angeles Police, alerted by an America's Most Wanted tipster, arrived at the Harvey Apartments on Dec. 1, 2011, to serve Smith with a search warrant. During the raid, Smith reportedly shot and killed himself.

That report also indicated that an unknown vehicle pulled up next to Chasen's Mercedes while she was stopped at a red light and someone fired shots at the publicist through her passenger-side window. The Beverly Hills Police detective who told the Los Angeles County Coroner's investigator about a "second vehicle" did not immediately return THR's call. It remains unclear whether "second vehicle" referred to a car or a bike.

As part of his lawsuit, Katzenbach is still seeking the Beverly Hills Police investigation file. He believes, based on his interviews, that unanswered questions may undermine the department's official explanation of the crime. For instance, Katzenbach says the man who initially tipped off America's Most Wanted about Smith is one of his key sources for the documentary.

The filmmaker's suit argues that the department has already opened up its Chasen investigation file anyway, by cooperating with Beverly Hills Confidential: A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murder, a 2012 book co-authored by a BHPD officer, which devotes a chapter to the case. Its cover notes that information comes direct "from the files of the Beverly Hills police department." Chief Snowden later gave copies of Confidential as gifts.

Buoyed by his legal success, Katzenbach is launching a 45-day Indiegogo campaign seeking $200,000 to further finance the completion of his Ed Asner-narrated documentary, 6:38: The Death of Ronni Chasen -- titled in reference to the elapsed time between her final cellphone call and the arrival of police. Most of the funds raised would be earmarked for re-creating the crime and crashing a Mercedes-Benz identical to the one she drove in order to test potential scenarios against the findings of the autopsy and other new information acquired from interviews with Katzenbach's sources.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r ... sed-665386


But he's run out money...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/6-38- ... n/x/595862

...how much for his signatures? :lol:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:29 pm

...so at the 6 minute mark in the video, he's basically saying he needs the money to buy a Mercedes Benz?

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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby kathyM » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:28 pm

Wow, he is out of money already? Yeah, we should all take up a collection for the poor guy so he can finish making his fabulous documentary which will win awards for sure. Not. :fp:
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Re: Shattered Hopes (film by Ric Osuna & Katco)

Postby sherbetbizarre » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:01 am

Going by the comments in the Hollywood Reporter article, he can always go down the Illuminati route...

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The cops are covering up for some very powerful people here, which is nothing unusual.

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Personally, I always thought that Chasen was murdered by her former illuminati brethren...Hate to get all conspiratorial and all, but this was clearly a Freakin (HIT). Why else would she have died in such a suspicious way and by a vagrant with a sketchy past who was so willing to "off" himself as soon as the police closed in....This guy I'm sure was paid to take Chasen out. My God, what kind of "secret society" was she about to expose?......


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Listen, i would say that i take the #2 bus every night from work to my home. i would say that i stop on sunset & whittier every night to walk to my home. i would say that i was walking across the street to the alleyway when it happened and i would even say there was no man on a bike. i would say there were indeed no other witnesses around outside (they say witnesses were from the surrounding homes, but no house lights were on in those homes), i would say that what i saw, and who i saw, but they already know where i live and have visited in the twilight. that would mean they have access to red light cameras and personal security cameras as I was unnoticed and anonymous at the time. i would say Ryan has no idea the danger he has put himself, and Diane. Don't grow a brain Ryan. Don't underestimate the other fat cats. It is up to you now Ryan.
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