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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Fri May 02, 2014 3:32 pm

If you accuse a Police Department of being incompetent and involved in a cover-up, then I guess denying you files you requested comes with the territory...

6:38 : The Death of Ronni Chasen • A Documentary wrote:APRIL 29: Opposing counsel has answered special interrogatories in our lawsuit against the BHPD in our fight over Ronni Chasen's homicide file. Documents turned over include letters from author Barbara Schroeder wherein she made ONE informational request for documents and received enough material to write an entire book. However, our team made almost a half-dozen individual requests for the same materials and was DENIED by BHPD repeatedly. And...there's more. Stay tuned...
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby kathyM » Sun May 04, 2014 3:15 pm

He says "stay tuned". That is too funny. Who is there left that will be patiently staying tuned to anything he has to say? :lol: His followers you could probably now count on one hand. I dont think he gets that yet.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby AMRA » Sun May 04, 2014 9:43 pm

sherbetbizarre wrote:If you accuse a Police Department of being incompetent and involved in a cover-up, then I guess denying you files you requested comes with the territory...


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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Wed May 28, 2014 3:56 pm

This should ensure he's too busy to release all those Shattered's this year...

Ronni Chasen Lawsuit: Key Hearing Set In Filmmaker's Public Records Battle With Police

A Dec. 11 hearing has been set in L.A. County Superior Court between the Beverly Hills Police Department and documentarian Ryan Katzenbach.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge James C. Chalfant has ordered a hearing date in the ongoing legal fight between the Beverly Hills Police Department and filmmaker Ryan Katzenbach over access to the case file of murdered film publicist Ronni Chasen. The move comes five months after the L.A. County Coroner released Chasen's long-sealed autopsy at Katzenbach's behest and against the BHPD's wishes as part of a related lawsuit.

Katzenbach is working on 6:38: The Death of Ronni Chasen, a documentary about the prominent Hollywood figure's highly publicized November 2010 death. She was fatally shot in her Mercedes-Benz while driving home from the premiere of Burlesque. Suspect Harold Martin Smith, a 43-year-old ex-convict who lived in a Hollywood flophouse, committed suicide when confronted by officers.

Some observers of the case believe unanswered questions remain, and Katzenbach hopes that the BHPD's Chasen file will yield answers. Although police departments typically have wide latitude to maintain discretion regarding their closed investigations, he believes the BHPD has waived its right in the Chasen saga since one of its own staffers, senior forensics specialist Clark Fogg, published the book, Beverly Hills Confidential: A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murder, which Katzenbach argues drew on Fogg's inside knowledge of the investigation for one of its chapters. The department disagrees.

"While I am glad to know that this will be brought to a resolution before the end of the year, I am more than a little irked that the people of California have to resort to such an effort to obtain transparency of their local government," says Katzenbach, who is acting as his own counsel, adding: "I am particularly irked that the other side has remained steadfast in their desire to take this matter to trial when it is clear that they have violated their own internal policy."

BHPD attorney T. Peter Pierce did not return a request for comment.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... ing-707398
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby kathyM » Wed May 28, 2014 7:35 pm

Maybe he really wants to be a lawyer. He sure does like to sue.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:57 pm

Looks like he's placing all his hope in something being amiss in the Police Report...

6:38 : The Death of Ronni Chasen • A Documentary wrote:HIATUS: Research and limited production work continues on "6:38," but the entire project stands, for the most part, in a holding pattern while we work our way through litigation with BHPD over access to the homicide file. We're hoping that we'll have a decision immediately after the December 11 trial.

...but he can still claim it's all a "cover-up" if he loses!
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby PeterPisani » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:03 am

Ryan sues as part of his promotional campaigns. 3 projects 3 lawsuits. It is free advertising. Its actually pretty smart. Become part of the story, and you now have free press! Remember as he sued me how he bragged and put it all over Shat's fb? But he just didnt post the dismissal. He went on to sue for his NEXT project. Before me, it was George Lutz.....(see the trend?) NEW PROJECT=NEW LAWSUIT!
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby Dan the Damned » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:00 am

I forget Ryan's claims concerning the lawsuit involving George, but what really happened was that George was the one who sued Ric Osuna. Ryan simply stepped in to help Ric with the case after Ric ditched his lawyer. Ryan was not officially part of that lawsuit -- he was just helping behind the scenes. The case was all about Ric infringing on George's trademark and copyrights, plus breach of contract (and even fraud, with the original complaint noting how Ric represented himself to George as an author and journalist).

And despite Ryan boasting that he won -- the case was settled out of court. Ric was forced to give up his "amityvillehorror.com" domain name, and an official judgment was entered stating that Ric violated George's trademark and copyrights and that he was permanently restrained from using "amityvillehorror" in any future website address.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby KDSPhantom » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:44 am

Hello

I know I am new here, so still catching up
it feels like I am woefully uninformed on the last 20 years of current events, but

it feels ever odd, very wrong that they would use ronnichasen.com
that a person would want to use that to promote a book? story? movie? what ever they are doing to make money off this lady being murdered ??

its one of those "you got to be kidding me right?"

please tell me this is a joke
a mistake

thank you
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:57 pm

Ronni Chasen's Murder: Lawsuit Raises Questions Over Police Investigation

An Oct. 6 brief asserts that Chasen's friends, including Diane Warren and Lili Zanuck, were never interviewed by detectives

Filmmaker Ryan Katzenbach's public-records lawsuit against the Beverly Hills Police Department over access to its case file about murdered film publicist Ronni Chasen raises new questions about the 2010 homicide investigation. (The BHPD ruled the case closed after suspect Harold Martin Smith killed himself in a Hollywood flophouse; alternative theories persist that he didn't act alone.)

An Oct. 6 brief filed by Katzenbach in L.A. Superior Court before the Dec. 11 trial asserts that Chasen's friends, songwriter Diane Warren (who saw her less than a half-hour before her death) and producer Lili Zanuck, both of whom he's interviewed for his in-progress documentary, told him that neither they nor anyone in Chasen's circle were interviewed by police. Katzenbach says the BHPD "was eager to close the murder case as quickly as possible." The BHPD could not be reached for comment.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r ... ses-740930

I'm not sure why Gary Baum bothered with this update. Maybe he's a friend of Ryan's publicist.

The best comment so far:

This filmmaker seems to have tunnel vision and appears to be only interested in "evidence" that supports his film's theory. If he were to find out that it went down just as the police said, all of the time and money he's put into his movie would be for nothing. I have read about this case a lot: the suspect who killed himself had an established history of riding his bikes all over the city, and had a criminal record that included robbing women.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby msmart112 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:24 pm

This filmmaker seems to have tunnel vision and appears to be only interested in "evidence" that supports his film's theory.

Sound familiar? ;)
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:41 pm

Mark
Just curious what theory are you pursuing with R.chasen?

Ryan
Mark, no theory as of yet with regards to Chasen. Just piles of questions from myself, as well as her friends, as to things that don't make a lot of sense. Until we get answers, it's hard to speculate. And, with the interviews already filmed by various eyewitnesses, there appears to be more than a few contradictions to the story provided by BHPD.

Clutching at straws then...
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:52 pm

The "crusading documentary filmmaker" swings into action...

Ronni Chasen Lawsuit: Filmmaker Reveals Neighbor’s Video Testimony on Eve of Trial (Exclusive)

A video exhibit entered into the court record by a crusading documentary filmmaker on the eve of his public records trial against the Beverly Hills Police Department could raise new questions as to whether the agency adequately pursued its investigation into the murder of film publicist Ronni Chasen after she left a premiere in November 2010.

The inquiry ended when an America’s Most Wanted tip led police to Harold Martin Smith, a 43-year-old ex-convict who committed suicide at his Hollywood flophouse when confronted by officers. The BHPD subsequently positioned the case as a random robbery gone wrong. Some believe Smith may have been hired as a hit man, and that he might not have acted alone.

The nearly eight-minute clip, submitted as Exhibit C in an evidentiary filing with L.A. Superior Court on Dec. 4, consists of an interview between Ryan Katzenbach and an unidentified Beverly Hills resident. He claims to have just returned to his Whittier Drive home along with a colleague at about 12:25 a.m. on Nov. 16 from an East Coast trip when he heard gunshots that he later learned resulted in Chasen’s death. “We heard a distinctive and very unusual noise, particularly for our neighborhood,” he says. “It was pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, thud.”

The self-described “earwitness,” who says he had previously shared his testimony with police, had been driven home from the airport in a taxi van whose driver may have seen the killing before leaving the immediate area. He claims that investigators eventually told him they reached the cab driver but could not interview him because the driver professed not to speak any English.

“An unexplained aspect of this is why the individual driver, who I am quite certain was able to communicate in English to me [during his taxi ride], was unable to communicate in English to the police.” It’s also unclear why, regardless of the nature of the driver’s English-language capabilities, investigators didn’t hire a translator. (The BHPD has declined to comment on its investigation to THR.)

Katzenbach, acting as his own counsel, submitted the footage, shot for his in-progress 6:38: The Death of Ronni Chasen, in support of his fight for access to the case file. Such records would typically remain off-limits to the public, but he asserts that the BHPD waived its right to a permanently closed investigation when it allowed its senior forensics specialist Clark Fogg to co-author a 2012 small-press book, Beverly Hills Confidential: A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murder, that claims on its cover to reveal secrets “from the files of the Beverly Hills Police Department.”

In a previous pretrial filing, Fogg briefly outlined his involvement with the case, noting that he “conducted the forensic processing and analysis of the crime scene.” Yet he has insisted that he did not rely on the overall Chasen file to form the detailed analysis of the murder investigation he shares in the book.

Judge James C. Chalfant is set to hear the case — following a 13-month process that has already resulted in a decision by the L.A. County Coroner’s Office to release Chasen’s previously sealed autopsy, against the BHPD’s wishes — on the morning of Dec. 11.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r ... als-755523

Does "Exhibit C" count for anything if the guy is unidentified?
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:07 pm

And it's all over... This is what happens when you're a cheapskate who doesn't hire a proper lawyer....

Ronni Chasen Lawsuit: Judge Denies Records to Filmmaker

L.A. Superior Court denied an independent filmmaker access to the investigative files he had sought in a 13-month legal battle with the City of Beverly Hills and its police department as he pursues a documentary about the death of murdered publicist Ronni Chasen. Some believe that a fuller review might challenge the official explanation for the killing: a random robbery-gone-wrong by ex-convict Harold Martin Smith.

In a 14-page tentative decision, Judge James C. Chalfant noted that he “agrees” with Ryan Katzenbach’s “general premise” that the filmmaker deserves access to at least some material, likely crime scene photos – particularly because the department had previously allowed a small-press book, Beverly Hills Confidential: A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murder, which discusses the case, to be co-authored and published by its senior forensic specialist Clark Fogg, who had worked the Chasen investigation. Yet Chalfant explained that Katzenbach “has not met his burden.”

Specifically at issue for Chalfant was the fact that Katzenbach, who has acted throughout the proceedings as his own counsel to save on costs, had neglected to depose either Fogg or his co-author, journalist Barbara Schroeder, and through questioning demonstrate that the information he seeks could only have come from confidential investigatory files, not exclusively from publicly available information, as the two authors affirmed in their pretrial declarations.

In court, as Beverly Hills’ defense attorney T. Peter Pierce looked on, the judge questioned the filmmaker about the decision. Katzenbach observed that he “thought the statements in the book were sufficient in themselves.” (Beverly Hills Confidential features Fogg’s own detailed analytical musings about the Chasen case.)

“I’m totally with you on the nature of your theory [that Katzenbach likely qualifies for at least some access in this situation],” the judge explained. “And I’m also with you that it looks suspicious that Schroeder and Fogg were favored [over you]. But you have to dot your I’s and cross your T’s. And depositions would have done it.”

Chalfant continued, “What I’m thinking about is what rights you have to do this all over again. CPRA [California Public Records Act] rights can be renewed. I have no opinion on that. The reason I’m wondering is that if you had pinned Mr. Fogg down as wearing his book hat, I think you’d get him on that.” Still, he explained to Katzenbach, at least for now, “you presented a viable theory but you didn’t finish the work.”

After he left Chalfant’s courtroom, Katzenbach told The Hollywood Reporter, “[Beverly Hills] won today on a technicality.” Will he appeal or re-file? “Both of those are viable options. But the one option I won’t exercise is walking away.”

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r ... ies-756718

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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby Dan the Damned » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:08 pm

"But the one option I won’t exercise is walking away," he said as he walked away... :D
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby kathyM » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:54 am

When is he going to learn that he is not a lawyer? :doh:

Of course he will say it is all a conspiracy against him. I am sure they are all either laughing at him or not even giving a thought to him.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby scipio-USMC » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:54 am

sherbetbizarre wrote:And it's all over... This is what happens when you're a cheapskate who doesn't hire a proper lawyer....

Ronni Chasen Lawsuit: Judge Denies Records to Filmmaker

L.A. Superior Court denied an independent filmmaker access to the investigative files he had sought in a 13-month legal battle with the City of Beverly Hills and its police department as he pursues a documentary about the death of murdered publicist Ronni Chasen. Some believe that a fuller review might challenge the official explanation for the killing: a random robbery-gone-wrong by ex-convict Harold Martin Smith.

In a 14-page tentative decision, Judge James C. Chalfant noted that he “agrees” with Ryan Katzenbach’s “general premise” that the filmmaker deserves access to at least some material, likely crime scene photos – particularly because the department had previously allowed a small-press book, Beverly Hills Confidential: A Century of Stars, Scandals and Murder, which discusses the case, to be co-authored and published by its senior forensic specialist Clark Fogg, who had worked the Chasen investigation. Yet Chalfant explained that Katzenbach “has not met his burden.”

Specifically at issue for Chalfant was the fact that Katzenbach, who has acted throughout the proceedings as his own counsel to save on costs, had neglected to depose either Fogg or his co-author, journalist Barbara Schroeder, and through questioning demonstrate that the information he seeks could only have come from confidential investigatory files, not exclusively from publicly available information, as the two authors affirmed in their pretrial declarations.

In court, as Beverly Hills’ defense attorney T. Peter Pierce looked on, the judge questioned the filmmaker about the decision. Katzenbach observed that he “thought the statements in the book were sufficient in themselves.” (Beverly Hills Confidential features Fogg’s own detailed analytical musings about the Chasen case.)

“I’m totally with you on the nature of your theory [that Katzenbach likely qualifies for at least some access in this situation],” the judge explained. “And I’m also with you that it looks suspicious that Schroeder and Fogg were favored [over you]. But you have to dot your I’s and cross your T’s. And depositions would have done it.”

Chalfant continued, “What I’m thinking about is what rights you have to do this all over again. CPRA [California Public Records Act] rights can be renewed. I have no opinion on that. The reason I’m wondering is that if you had pinned Mr. Fogg down as wearing his book hat, I think you’d get him on that.” Still, he explained to Katzenbach, at least for now, “you presented a viable theory but you didn’t finish the work.”

After he left Chalfant’s courtroom, Katzenbach told The Hollywood Reporter, “[Beverly Hills] won today on a technicality.” Will he appeal or re-file? “Both of those are viable options. But the one option I won’t exercise is walking away.”

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/r ... ies-756718

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I love how he calls not proving his case a technicality.
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:09 pm

6:38 : The Death of Ronni Chasen • A Documentary wrote:WE WILL RENEW OUR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. Stay tuned.

YAY!

And it looks like this project has found its Geraldine...

Rose wrote:BHPD is lying! Smith was at Prime Time pub on the night Ms. Chasen got killed. I called and told them about this a long time before the case was closed, but they failed to check the video camera because they were too busy doing other things. Plus Dept. of Alcohol Beverage Control of CA. refused to let BHPD see the content in the video because it might connects the murder's weapon with one of their undercover agent. And so, if they never checked the video tape then how do they determined Smith is the right shooter? If I am lying about this then come and get me, you know who I am... What up with BHPD? Are they cowards?
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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:39 pm

The Hollywood Reporter, the only publication who thinks Ryan's documentary is newsworthy, outdid themselves this week...

Sarah Jones’ Mother Slams Hollywood Reporter for Leaked Autopsy Findings, ‘Callous’ Reporting

Elizabeth McCartha Jones penned an open letter to the publication for its coverage of the “Midnight Rider” crew member’s death

Elizabeth McCartha Jones, mother of “Midnight Rider” crew member Sarah Jones who was killed during production of the Gregg Allman biopic, condemned The Hollywood Reporter on Thursday for callously reporting the details of her daughter’s autopsy.

“I am totally stunned, I am totally appalled, and I am ashamed of the callous reporter who leaked the autopsy report of our daughter for the world to see,” she wrote in an open letter.

An attorney representing Sarah’s parents issued a released a statement on their behalf: “There was no valid, newsworthy reason to reveal the details of Sarah’s autopsy,” Jeffrey R. Harris, counsel for Elizabeth and Richard Jones, wrote. “The only reason to do so is out of a sick desire to sensationalize this young woman’s terrible death.”

http://www.thewrap.com/sarah-jones-moth ... s-stories/

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Re: Katzenbach's Ronni Chasen documentary

Postby sherbetbizarre » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:16 am

A new long article in The Hollywood Reporter suggests this story isn't done yet...

What Really Happened the Night Hollywood Power Publicist Ronni Chasen Was Killed?

Now, years later, previously unreleased pieces of the BHPD's Chasen murder investigation file have been reviewed. An examination of this material and other evidence by THR raises questions about the department's core findings. This reporting appears to leave in doubt whether the department — which never was required to present evidence to a prosecutor, much less amass proof to demonstrate it had fingered the right culprit beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury — knows how the murder was committed and whether multiple individuals were potentially involved.


But THR's review of the newly available BHPD case files may undermine such certainty. There is no definite ballistics match in the released files, only an inconclusive report that states the "fired bullet jacket could have been fired from" Smith's gun "as they exhibit similar general rifling characteristics and some agreement of individual characters, but [are] insufficient for an identification."

Multiple killers? The wrong gun? Surprised Katzenbach didn't fast-track this one to completion.

And yes, "The chain-smoking Katzenbach" features heavily in this article. He's even made an elobate chart!

Katzenbach shares an elaborate chart he's established of tantalizing if murky connections between Smith and Chasen that THR can't publish without drawing a defamation-by-implication claim. It's a circumstantial constellation of film ties, troubled relationships, criminal records and money issues. All of it centers on one person long known to the publicist who several of her best friends (some never interviewed by the police) suggested in interviews with THR could have played a key role in a hit.

Although he's fallen out with one of his main contacts:

Until now, the identity of the America's Most Wanted tipster who fingered Smith has been a mystery. It's Laramie Beckay, a disabled punk musician living on government assistance who resided a few doors away from Smith on the third floor of the dingy 177-unit Harvey Apartments a few blocks northeast of the Paramount lot in Hollywood. He's come forward to THR now because "after six years, I've felt forgotten, and I want credit. Due to my assistance, the Ronni Chasen case was solved and closed." He once reached out to Katzenbach but had a falling-out with the documentarian.

So why have they fallen out?

Harold Matzner, chairman of the Palm Springs Film Festival and a longtime client of Chasen's, announced a $100,000 reward after she was killed.

Beckay told his story on camera to Katzenbach in 2013 (only willing to do so with his face shadowed, voice altered and name withheld). But he later soured on collaborating with the filmmaker after learning that Katzenbach had taken on Matzner as a financier to complete the project. Matzner had declined to pay out the reward money to Beckay, arguing the case still was unsolved. A subsequent lawsuit led to a settlement in which Beckay received an undisclosed partial payment, which he used to purchase a limited-edition 2011 bright green manual transmission Camaro.

And Beckay sums up Katzenbach's motives on this (and Amityville) in one neat sentence...

Still embittered over the legal ordeal, Beckay recently finished a punk song ("The Hills Are Bleeding") inspired by Chasen. He calls Katzenbach "diabolical; Ryan doesn't want to make a movie anymore — he wants to solve a case. He wants to have an alternative ending because he has a hard-on for fame."

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/featur ... led-947580
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